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jeffb
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I am looking for suggestions to generally improve sustain or more specifically on a 77 strat.

Post Date: 11/28/2008 @ 4:50 pm
RE: Improving sustain
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Finger vibrato.

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Post Date: 11/28/2008 @ 6:10 pm

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If your strat does not have a full size steel tremelo block, then replacing it with a Callaham block would help for sure. (Callaham.com has all kinds of excellent stuff) Another help is to have a bone nut put in.


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Post Date: 11/28/2008 @ 11:56 pm

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Good sustain begins with a solid neck joint.



though when asked how he got his les pauls to sustain forever, robert fripp responded "intent."



Post Date: 11/29/2008 @ 12:19 am

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There's also the issue of pickup height. If the pickups are close to the strings, the magnetic fields from them create drag on the strings and damp out their vibrations quite early. The upside is that you get more volume out of the guitar. There's another downside, though - A strong magnetic field drags the strings into a gentle U-shape around the area of the pickups, which can lead to some weird harmonic artifacts appearing in your sound. Screw the pickups down into the body and the drag reduces, so the strings sustain for far longer with no extraneous harmonic artifacts, but at the expense of total volume. There's a compromise, there, then.

Heavier strings, having more mass, vibrate for longer as well. The downside of that is that bending and vibrato are much more difficult to achieve cleanly, but your fingers soon build up more strength. Jump one gauge at a time during this process - ie if you currently have 9s on there, re-string with 10s, build up your strength, then go to 11s, etc. Stop when you're happy. Again, it's a compromise.

And +1 on bridge block, bone (Tusq? Graphtek? all sorts of better ones) nut, vibrato and get a tech to look at the neck joint.

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Post Date: 11/29/2008 @ 1:44 am

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R O Tiree said:

There's also the issue of pickup height....

And +1 on bridge block, bone (Tusq? Graphtek? all sorts of better ones) nut, vibrato and get a tech to look at the neck joint.


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Oh, absolutely. I forgot to mention pickup height (and string gage).

And if that doesn't work, get RO to make you one of his fables Retro-comp compressors. That'll fix up your sustain in style. Smiley No joke.


this rig requires something with a little more kick... plutonium!

Post Date: 11/29/2008 @ 9:21 am

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Try raising your action at the bridge... can help.

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Post Date: 11/30/2008 @ 1:41 pm

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also, what size and type of pick are you using?

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and a shoutout to Scotty for the JSX!

Post Date: 11/30/2008 @ 9:50 pm

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A quick simple thing to try before changing the nut is to apply some graphite from a pencil to lubricate it. just loosen your strings one at a time then get a nice soft pencil and rub it up and down the slot for the string then re tune, failing that turn your amp up to 11 nothing like some feedback to give you sustain Smiley

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Post Date: 12/1/2008 @ 6:50 pm

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Better yet, get RO to build you a Retro Comp, then put a Fuzz Face after it whilst using a Les Paul with both pickups in series.

That is still sustaining from last month on my Les Paul.

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Post Date: 12/2/2008 @ 6:16 pm

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OR put the Fuzz Face infront of the comp. Fuzz Face likes to see pickups.....not a buffer

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Post Date: 12/2/2008 @ 6:25 pm

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I find that it works well no matter which way round I put it.

I might try using the pedal order switcher that RO built for me and experimenting a little more to see how it responds. I find that having a comp in front of the Fuzz Face really reigns in the lows, which without some form of attenuation on them get a little out of control. I know thats fuzz, but it gets a little more out of control than I want it to at times.

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Post Date: 12/2/2008 @ 6:32 pm

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