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I see no reason to buy another ES-135. I tried both of these today. Great guitars which can be had for under a grand.

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Post Date: 5/5/2012 @ 6:28 pm
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Which color finish did they have in stock ?

I'm just wondering if the blue one looks good in person.

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It wasn't blue.

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Henry, I have the figured maple "brown" (more like a tiger look) version AS93, can't say enough about it! The stock pickups are great (but can imagine what 57 Classics would do to it!), set up of the rack was amazing, beautiful neck to play on, stays in tune great (tuners aren't cheapo's, they're good quality). I bought it new for $579 about 6 years ago, and could never see paying $1000 + for a semi hollow when Ibanez has these and they play and sound like guitars that are 3 times the cost. No convincing me on their greatness! Smiley

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Post Date: 5/6/2012 @ 8:39 am

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I have an AF95 and it's quite good. I haven't side-by-sided it with a Gibson, but I cannot imagine the Gibson being better enough to cost 15 times as much. (I got mine used for under $300, with a case.) I did put a pair of Burstbucker Pros that I got from Zug-uitar in it, but still.




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Post Date: 5/6/2012 @ 9:06 am

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I feel an attack of G.A.S. coming on. I almost fell over when I played the AS93.

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Post Date: 5/6/2012 @ 12:02 pm

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No doubt its a nice guitar for the money but so is Washburns HB-35.

Washburn has the buzz feiten tuning system.

The only problem with having the buzz feiten tuning system on your guitar is from here on out every guitar you ever play that doesn't have it will sound out of tune.

(including the $3,000.00 Gibsons)

I have recordings that I did 10 years ago on an HB-35 that back up what I'm saying.

Food for thought.

This thread has got me to thinking about having some of my present Charvel collection retrofitted with the buzz feiten nut.

Because it really is pretty gratifying when your $500.00 guitar sounds better than a $2,500.00 guitar

Buzz Feiten ain't BS to the discerning ear.

The other two companies that offer it (besides Washburn) are Tom Anderson and Suhr.

That should tell you something right there.

Post Date: 5/6/2012 @ 2:02 pm

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Chuck King said:

I have an AF95 and it's quite good. I haven't side-by-sided it with a Gibson, but I cannot imagine the Gibson being better enough to cost 15 times as much. (I got mine used for under $300, with a case.) I did put a pair of Burstbucker Pros that I got from Zug-uitar in it, but still.




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Chuck--I bought a '96 Gibson 135 with '57 classics for $700 I also had an Artcore AS73 and I agree they are a good value--- but if you don't like the pups and have to replace them as you ( and I and others on this forum ) did, the value starts to drop off pretty quick. The other issue I had with my AS73 ( $299 new in 2007) was the bridge. It was crap--the saddles were loose and it would not intonate properly so I had to replace it with a Gotoh bridge from StewMac .
The Ibanez was better cosmetically i.e. binding on the neck ,F-Holes and headstock but that lightning bolt on the headstock take a bit of getting used to

For someone who wants a new guitar--Ibanez is probably the way to go----For $700 used--I will take the Gibby all day long

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Henry Mars said:

I feel an attack of G.A.S. coming on. I almost fell over when I played the AS93.

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I know the feeling, I had it about 5 - 6 years ago when I bought mine!!!! PLays liek a dream, and sounds like one too! I run mine into my GT8 and it covers every piece of ground I cover!

I got my Tele, Strat and semi-hollow (AS93), I need nothing else!!!! Electric that is! Acoustic I have my Martin and Art & Lutherie Cedarburst, no needs there either!!!

It's a fantastic guitar Henry, and you can play for 4 hrs and no sore back!!! Smiley

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Post Date: 5/6/2012 @ 4:22 pm

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sting729 said:

Chuck--I bought a '96 Gibson 135 with '57 classics for $700 I also had an Artcore AS73 and I agree they are a good value--- but if you don't like the pups and have to replace them as you ( and I and others on this forum ) did, the value starts to drop off pretty quick. The other issue I had with my AS73 ( $299 new in 2007) was the bridge. It was crap--the saddles were loose and it would not intonate properly so I had to replace it with a Gotoh bridge from StewMac .
The Ibanez was better cosmetically i.e. binding on the neck ,F-Holes and headstock but that lightning bolt on the headstock take a bit of getting used to

For someone who wants a new guitar--Ibanez is probably the way to go----For $700 used--I will take the Gibby all day long

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For that price, I would too. It's been a while since I've seen one of those under a grand, though.

I didn't feel a burning need to replace the pickups, but, I got a good deal on the Burstbuckers from Zug, and they were gold and this was one of the only guitars I have that had gold hardware, so I figured, I'll put them in here. It sounds great now, but pickup swaps on archtops being the pain in the @$$ they are, I didn't hear them even close to side-by-side, so I cant say how much better they were than the Ibanez pickups.

Also, the AF95 is a full hollowbody---the ES-135 is thicker than a 335 etc., but it still has a block down the center. For any decent Gibson full hollowbody, you're looking at something in the neighborhood of two grand, even used, and a lot more for a new one

When I got my AF95 used off eBay, it still had the padding under the bridge! I took that out and sanded the bridge to fit the contour of the top of the guitar (which should be done on any guitar with a floating wooden bridge), but I haven't had any problems with the bridge itself (so far, knock on wood).

I have been thinking about getting a semihollow 335-style guitar again. The AS series are definitely on my list to consider, along with the Washburn and the Epiphone Dot and Sheraton.

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Post Date: 5/6/2012 @ 4:58 pm

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Maritimer said:

Henry Mars said:

I feel an attack of G.A.S. coming on. I almost fell over when I played the AS93.

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I know the feeling, I had it about 5 - 6 years ago when I bought mine!!!! PLays liek a dream, and sounds like one too! I run mine into my GT8 and it covers every piece of ground I cover!

I got my Tele, Strat and semi-hollow (AS93), I need nothing else!!!! Electric that is! Acoustic I have my Martin and Art & Lutherie Cedarburst, no needs there either!!!

It's a fantastic guitar Henry, and you can play for 4 hrs and no sore back!!! Smiley


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4hrs with my ES-335 and I need a chiropractor ... the Peavey T40 bass is even worse.

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Post Date: 5/6/2012 @ 5:21 pm

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Chuck King said:

sting729 said:

Chuck--I bought a '96 Gibson 135 with '57 classics for $700 I also had an Artcore AS73 and I agree they are a good value--- but if you don't like the pups and have to replace them as you ( and I and others on this forum ) did, the value starts to drop off pretty quick. The other issue I had with my AS73 ( $299 new in 2007) was the bridge. It was crap--the saddles were loose and it would not intonate properly so I had to replace it with a Gotoh bridge from StewMac .
The Ibanez was better cosmetically i.e. binding on the neck ,F-Holes and headstock but that lightning bolt on the headstock take a bit of getting used to

For someone who wants a new guitar--Ibanez is probably the way to go----For $700 used--I will take the Gibby all day long

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For that price, I would too. It's been a while since I've seen one of those under a grand, though.

I didn't feel a burning need to replace the pickups, but, I got a good deal on the Burstbuckers from Zug, and they were gold and this was one of the only guitars I have that had gold hardware, so I figured, I'll put them in here. It sounds great now, but pickup swaps on archtops being the pain in the @$$ they are, I didn't hear them even close to side-by-side, so I cant say how much better they were than the Ibanez pickups.

Also, the AF95 is a full hollowbody---the ES-135 is thicker than a 335 etc., but it still has a block down the center. For any decent Gibson full hollowbody, you're looking at something in the neighborhood of two grand, even used, and a lot more for a new one

When I got my AF95 used off eBay, it still had the padding under the bridge! I took that out and sanded the bridge to fit the contour of the top of the guitar (which should be done on any guitar with a floating wooden bridge), but I haven't had any problems with the bridge itself (so far, knock on wood).

I have been thinking about getting a semihollow 335-style guitar again. The AS series are definitely on my list to consider, along with the Washburn and the Epiphone Dot and Sheraton.

Point of Interest---The 135, at least the older ones like the one I had have a Balsa center block. Balsa wood falls under the hard wood species category contrary to what most people think. http://forestry.about.com/cs/treeid/f/Tree_ID_wood.htm

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Post Date: 5/6/2012 @ 7:42 pm

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I remember my first evening as an HB-35 owner.
I leaned the guitar up against the wall near the night stand and as I lay there in bed I kept staring at it.
My wife asked me if I was going to shut off the light and go to sleep or if I was going to stare at the guitar all night.

You KNOW what the answer was.

It was easily the most beautiful guitar I had ever owned.

Post Date: 5/6/2012 @ 8:40 pm

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If I get another guitar it will be one of those Ibanez. The necks are fantastically comfortable and I prefer the narrower profile compared to a Gibby even one for $700.

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Maritimer said:

Henry Mars said:

I feel an attack of G.A.S. coming on. I almost fell over when I played the AS93.

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I know the feeling, I had it about 5 - 6 years ago when I bought mine!!!! PLays liek a dream, and sounds like one too! I run mine into my GT8 and it covers every piece of ground I cover!

I got my Tele, Strat and semi-hollow (AS93), I need nothing else!!!! Electric that is! Acoustic I have my Martin and Art & Lutherie Cedarburst, no needs there either!!!

It's a fantastic guitar Henry, and you can play for 4 hrs and no sore back!!! Smiley


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Dale, I'm really glad you are happy with all of those guitars, but they must take up an awful lot of room. My birthday was Friday and I'm sure you just forgot it, but if you send me your Martin, we will call it all even, OK?

BTW, I think I have posted pics of this, but one of my current projects is an electric bass based on a D28, down to the purfling, binding and body shape. A regulation D28 sized sound-hole with a Music Man pup mounted behind it. It's for my high school best friend who has a '54 D28. An interesting experience for somebody who has never built an acoustic, although this one is really a semi-hollow electric.

Post Date: 5/7/2012 @ 7:31 pm

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If I had to do it again (and I just might someday) I wouldn't get the tobacco sunburst again. I would go for the wine red instead. The pickups in the HB-35 sounded fantastic. After a few years I swapped in a pair of Gibson burstbucker pros and I thought they sounded lousy. I wish I had kept the stock Washburn pickups in it. I did try the Washburn side by side with a Gibson ES-335 before I bought it. I liked the sound of the Washburn better than the Gibson. It's a tone thing...I know what I like. It was a no brainer. It really had nothing to do with the price difference. The Washburn had bound F-Holes and a flame top and back. It was a better looking and sounding guitar. Like I said. It was a no brainer.

Post Date: 5/7/2012 @ 10:58 pm


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