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I noticed there was a tone forum here but it did not have any postings, so I thought I'd try one here.
I have purchased numerous effects pedals over the years, even a digital processor or two. One of my main questions is how can you get a guitar tone with the guitar right out the box with no effects added?
Every time I pick up my electric and just strum or pick out a few notes, it sounds so 'tinny' and metallic; not at all like a guitar.
Now the issue may be compounded because I am hooked up to a Pignose amp (my main amp is downstairs behind a stack of books).
Comments any one?
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Henry Mars
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Pick ups and Amplifiers mostly. You have to have the right combo.
What is the sound you are going for? My preferred rig at the moment is a Traynor VCY40WR and A gibson Midtown Custom, It sound great for R&B but it isn't the right setup for every situation. Probably explains why I have so many guitars and amplifiers. I have payed a few "gigs" with an ES335 and an EPI Valve Jr with a borrowed reverb pedal because I needed a slightly over driven Jazz sound. When I need to get a cranked vintage sound for fusion I use a LP55-77 with P90's and a solid state Peavey Special or if I am feeling strong that day I will cart my Peavey Duce or one of the other amps that are laying around my cave. I mean what is it that you are looking for. don't thing the Pignose is what you really need. BTW what kind of ax do you use?
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I am using an Epiphone Les Paul Junior. I plan on focusing mostly on blues along the lines of Buddy Guy, Eric Clapton, the King Brothers (Albert, Freddie, BB).
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Not sure about the Pignose. If you wanna that kind of sound, it has been my experience to go with a Fender tube amp. Or, if ya wanna go on the inexpesive side, go with a fender Mustang. A ot of bang for your buck.
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Fender Blues Deluxe. That was my "Holy Grail" amp. I'm big on Clapton's thick sound and can get a decent approximation with that set up. Get an Ibanez Tube Screamer to let you shape the tube driven sounds at low amp volume, otherwise your neighbors will hate you.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/fender-blues-deluxe-reissue-40w-1x12-combo-amp?src=3WWRWXGP - Blues Deluxe
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/ibanez-ts9-tube-screamer-effects-pedal?src=3WWRWXGP - Tube Screamer
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Henry, I can make a $60,000 Dumble and a $5000 PRS sound like crap. You could probably make a $700 rig sound better. So tell us what gives.
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I don't know what gives Julia .... I have been collecting stuff for around 50 years and I like the way certain combinations of things sound.
But what do I know? I was on the road with two Kustom 200's a Supro and a Gretsch for three years.
I do miss the Fender Bassman I used back in the mid 60's ... I sold the damn thing and an Ampeg B15. What a mistake. So I could just be completely delusional. At my age I think I earned delusional.
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It sounds like your guitar needs a setup, and probably new strings.
Tone - it's subjective. My idea of a "bluesy" tone is an overdriven clean channel.
I get a guitar tone simply by plugging the guitar into an amp, myself. Whether or not I like that tone is determined by the guitar and the amp in question.
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lordofblues said:
Fender Blues Deluxe. That was my "Holy Grail" amp. I'm big on Clapton's thick sound and can get a decent approximation with that set up. Get an Ibanez Tube Screamer to let you shape the tube driven sounds at low amp volume, otherwise your neighbors will hate you.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/fender-blues-deluxe-reissue-40w-1x12-combo-amp?src=3WWRWXGP - Blues Deluxe
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/ibanez-ts9-tube-screamer-effects-pedal?src=3WWRWXGP - Tube Screamer
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The Blues Deluxe is a great Amp ... I still may buy one. I wish it had a VT rectifier though.
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DeathCharge2 said:
... My idea of a "bluesy" tone is an overdriven clean channel. ...
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I really need to make you listen to SRV one of these days... but seriously, between clean and dirty you should be able to achieve a useable blues tone from any amp worth the electricity it runs on.
Make friends with your guitar's tone knob. Maybe consider an ax with a neck pickup in the future.
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i did think the Tinny sound came from a 47uF Cap, some seem to like a 33uF Cap or 22
or if you want can put on a switch that Toggles and you can have 47/33/22uF
also love this SWEET Tone switch i found one sign GM Arts i think nice guy to talk to..
were they use a Filter 1MOhms and 10 or 12nF cap
and a 270KOhms with a 3n3 or 3n9F cap
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ax_murder said:
DeathCharge2 said:
... My idea of a "bluesy" tone is an overdriven clean channel. ...
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I really need to make you listen to SRV one of these days... but seriously, between clean and dirty you should be able to achieve a useable blues tone from any amp worth the electricity it runs on.
Make friends with your guitar's tone knob. Maybe consider an ax with a neck pickup in the future.
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I've listened to SRV (2x TS808's into a Fender as I recall) but I still think of B.B. King before SRV when someone says "blues".
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Blues ain't in the tone. It's in the feel.
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Julia_343 said:
Blues ain't in the tone. It's in the feel.
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Mostly I have found that blues playing is the process of playing a wrong note then bending it until it sound like a right note ....... thus making one sad then happy. Ya know .... I'm happy because it feels so bad etc.
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How in the world can there be a discussion about blues and no one metions Buddy Guy???
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