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Amazing Batman Electric Guitar - Who made it?
samuel.chicago
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Hi everyone out there.

Take a look to this amazing electric guitar:

http://s1118.photobucket.com/albums/k619/samuelchicago/

Do you know what's the manufacturer of this electric guitar?

It used to belong to my uncle who had a band in the 60s/70s. He gave it to my dad and later he gave it to me... They bought the guitar here, somewhere in the USA in the early 70's I guess. I would like to restore it, You know, buy new parts and repaint it, however, I would like to use original parts.

So is this a Fender? Traditions? Epiphone? Gibson ? Ibaņez? Simple have no clue. There is a plate holding the strings saying BEAT nothing else.

The guitar has a very good sound actually. However many parts, like the pick ups selector or the cable jack that are very used and seem to provide a flimsy connection sometimes. I want to replace them. Also the tremolo look rusted as well as some other parts as you can see in the pictures. This is the only guitar I have ever seen having this weird shape and that batman-like sign in the middle.

So my question is for those great musicians out there, from the 70's, 60's, etc. Have you ever seen a guitar like this? Do you have any idea about the manufacturer's and how can I get original parts?

Please, I would like to read your opinions and suggestions about parts and the best way to restore this amazing instrument.

Thanks for your time and collaboration.

Post Date: 4/6/2011 @ 12:18 pm
RE: Amazing Batman Electric Guitar - Who made it?
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samuel.chicago said:

So is this a Fender? Traditions? Epiphone? Gibson ? Ibaņez? Simple have no clue. There is a plate holding the strings saying BEAT nothing else.

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I don't think it's any of these.

It may not even be a production guitar at all (maybe custom made). Honestly, I think you will have trouble finding original replacement parts for it. Other than the bigsby-style tail piece, non-original replacement parts which look/function similar shouldn't be too hard to come by. The pickups look just like Strat single coils.

Post Date: 4/6/2011 @ 10:47 pm

RE: Amazing Batman Electric Guitar - Who made it?
samuel.chicago
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Thanks for your reply. I really appreciate it. Yeah, my intuition was telling me that probably this is a custom made guitar. Do you have any clue about the brand of the parts you can see? I took a look to the bigsby website in order to look for a tailpiece similar to this one but cannot find this particular model.I know you said bigsby-'style', but had the hope to find one there. Anyway, my biggest concern is about the tuners, since they look very bad.. do you have any idea, from personal experience, about the brand they probably used?

Will really appreciate your answers, and will keep you posted. I'll upload a video to YouTube to show the restoration process... Hopefully it will be during june.

Hope to get some other replies. Thanks so much janosfia!!

Post Date: 4/7/2011 @ 2:34 am

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I have no way to know what kind of tuners those are, but Stewmac.com and Gutiarfetish.com have a wide variety of replacement tuners. Take some measurements and check them out. By the way, that's one wild looking guitar!

Post Date: 4/7/2011 @ 8:44 am

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I'm pretty sure Carter64 knows someone that would like to play it. The guy may even have one!!

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Post Date: 4/7/2011 @ 9:01 am

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The parts look like stuff I've seen on 60s or early 70s Japanese guitars. They were made and sold under a jillion different brand names.

If you want to fix it up, the first question is, what on it doesn't work now? If you need a new pick guard, you can send the old one to various custom pickguard people and they'll make a new one that follows the exact outline and screw spacing. If it needs pickups, you probably won't be able to find anything that is exactly like those, but, if regular Strat pickups won't fit, if you're really serious about authenticity you could get them re-wound. You should be able to find tuners that look like those; you might or might not be able to find drop-ins with the same shaft diameter and screw pattern. If you take one of those off and measure it carefully, you can compare the dimensions etc. to the technical specs on the Stewart MacDonald web site.

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Post Date: 4/7/2011 @ 10:51 am

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I really appreciate all your replies guys. Thanks.

In fact the guitar is working very good. I just wanted to change the parts because of the rust so that, it can look like new. What I have decided to do is to repaint the wood part (will need some suggestions here), and keep all the metallic parts. I will try to use some liquid to eliminate the rust and clean them. (advices will be highly appreciated)

There are a couple of things I have to change for sure: the three way switch and the audio cable jack. But these are not a big deal.

Pickups work great!

I'll keep you posted. I friend told me about a very famous electric guitar shop here in Chicago. The owner is a guy with a lot of experience in guitars. I'll go this weekend or may be next week.

Thanks again..

Post Date: 4/8/2011 @ 2:53 am

RE: Amazing Batman Electric Guitar - Who made it?
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Really cool looking guitar!

A genuine Bat-ocaster!

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Post Date: 4/9/2011 @ 8:26 am

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Are you absolutely sure that you want to refinish/restore this instrument? And more importantly, do it yourself? I have no idea of your woodworking/painting/electronics skills, so maybe you're completely quaified for the job. I can tell you that from a collectability standpoint, you will most likely be reducing the value of the instrument if you refinish it or change out the parts. Value aside, it's an old instrument and it should look a little beat up. If everything is working, why not play it as is? If there are things that make it difficult or uncomfortable to play, then just make sure that you get it done right. Especially since it has so much sentimental value.

Post Date: 4/11/2011 @ 9:47 am

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By the way, you might try sending the pics to George Gruhn or Walter Carter of Gruhn guitars. Those two know just about everything there is to know about vintage instruments. If they can't help you can also try Tim Kummer of Kummer Vintage Instruments.

Post Date: 4/11/2011 @ 9:59 am

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samuel.chicago said:

I really appreciate all your replies guys. Thanks.

In fact the guitar is working very good. I just wanted to change the parts because of the rust so that, it can look like new. What I have decided to do is to repaint the wood part (will need some suggestions here), and keep all the metallic parts. I will try to use some liquid to eliminate the rust and clean them. (advices will be highly appreciated)

There are a couple of things I have to change for sure: the three way switch and the audio cable jack. But these are not a big deal.

Pickups work great!

I'll keep you posted. I friend told me about a very famous electric guitar shop here in Chicago. The owner is a guy with a lot of experience in guitars. I'll go this weekend or may be next week.

Thanks again..


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IF you repaint the guitar you will likely trash any value the guitar may have. Whatever you take OFF the guitar, KEEP WITH THE GUITAR. There's no intrinsic value to the guitar, only whatever collector value it might have, and to have any collector value it must be as original as possible.

It's likely to have been something made by the same company that built TEISCO and other Japanese guitars of the era.

Post Date: 4/20/2011 @ 8:55 pm

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